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Jere answers:

As a vegetarian I personally would have nothing to do with it!

Did you know that work is already being done on this kind of thing? I’m not gonna dig up links but I know companies have ramped up the same kind of tissue culturing techniques used for things like burn victim skin grafts! What’s slowed major commercial exploitation is that they can’t get the texture they want.

I actually would consider this a viable method to replace not just factory farms but all direct animal exploitation (with all the cruelty that entails). Yes, when this stuff actually hits the market I would encourage meat eaters to use the stuff instead of ‘natural’ animal flesh. This will be (along with the veggie analogs) the advance that encourages folks to stop killing animals for food! I could see a future where folks would be upset about eating meat from ‘real’ animals. Wasn’t there a Star Trek or such that had someone upset about about eating real dead animal instead of replicated flesh?

That’s the real promise of this kind of technology!

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The first two answerer’s aren’t considering that with tissue culture you would KNOW that the product didn’t contain excess hormones or contaminants. Would you rather eat a slab of dead cow that could be full of prions, viruses, bacteria, anti-biotics, hormones etc. Or a lab tested and certified beeph steak? Think about it!

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In my usual style of making a long answer longer…

Quorn is NOT genetically modified! It’s a natural soil fungus that’s grown in a manner similar to yeast. I’m not a big fan of Quorn but that bit of mis-information needs correcting.

No animals need be killed for this stuff at all! It just takes ONE small tissue sample to start a culture with. When that tissue culture is large enough you divide it to start many new cultures. Think of something like a sourdough starter where a small piece is always saved to make the next batch of sourdough. A plant based analogy would be Geraniums. They don’t normally set viable seed so every single plant you see for sale was actually started from a tissue culture!! The ‘quicker’ readers will realize we’re talking *real* cloning here. I’m glad Toph caught the potential environmental benefits of the stuff! I hoped someone would. Beebs might be interested to know that cow mammary glands have gotten this treatment and so have fish. You still wouldn’t be a vegetarian but you could have your raw cow milk and fish without harming animals. Here’s a *real* eye-opener, human mammary glands could get this treatment to produce MASS quantities of human milk! All it takes is one healthy female volunteer willing to get jabbed with a biopsy needle. Interesting concept huh? No more babies getting fed cow milk or formula! Sorry perverts, no giant breasts involved here, just a thin layer of gland tissue grown on a substrate that constantly expresses milk.

All this (and more) is *possible* right now. For us veggies I’ve seen tissue cultures of lettuce and bell pepper. That’ll hush some meaty trolls that scream about us killing plants!
What’s stopping troubleshooting and more development is money; not just money to ramp up production but also money interests freaking about their own pocketbooks. The meat/dairy industry is (rightly) worried about the potential as is anyone involved in agriculture. There were some folks that ‘pooped’ themselves when they found out some of this stuff has already been eaten by humans (lab researchers).
I’ve been following this “sci-fi” technology for years since (as some know) I’m opposed to *all* killing and this is a step in the right direction. What I *really* want is the ability to convert raw energy directly into food! (one of the ramifications of E=Mc squared)

Jere answers:

I ll help u to know the process of Leather Manufacturing, a part of ur question….
In order to obtain diversified end products from a simple animal skin, rawhide is subjected to 13 major processes in our factory. Depending on customers’ requirements, these processes are even further subdivided into numerous stages.

1)Soaking

As the initial process of leather manufacturing, salted rawhide from North America is rinsed with water to remove salt and dirt and also to replace moisture lost in the curing process to soften the hide tissue.
(Required time: 1 day)

2)Dividing

The hide is then cut down the length of the backbone into two sides to improve the working efficiency of the subsequent processing.
(Required time: half a day)

3)Unhairing and Liming

Next, the hide is immersed in the lime solution to easily remove hair and to resolve unwanted fat and furthermore to open-up the collagen fiber. Liming promotes the penetration of chemical agents into the hide tissue. Drum liming and paddle liming are usualbut Tochigi Leather employs pit liming.
(Required time: 5 to 6 days)

4)Fleshing

This is an operation to remove fat from the flesh side of the hide using a fleshing machine.
(Required time: 1 day)

5)Deliming and Bating

Deliming neutralizes the hide and bating gives it a smoother grain to facilitate subsequent tanning process.
(Required time: 1 day)

6)Pit tanning

Dipped in a pit filled with vegetable tannin solution for about three weeks, the hide is tanned to become ?“leather”? Which is immune to decay.
(Required time: 20 to 30 days)

7)Fatliquoring

After the tanning, excess moisture is squeezed out of the leather. Then natural based grease is applied onto the leather in a drum to add flexibility and durability.
(Required time: half a day)

8)Setting Out

The leather is smoothened, first, by a setting machine then carefully by hand.
(Required time: 1 day)

9)Drying

The leather is dried in a well-ventilated indoors, avoiding direct sunlight to become case leather.
(Required time: 10 to 15 days)

10)Splitting

Splitting adjusts the thickness of the case leather depending on the use for bags, belts, etc.
(Required time: 1 day)

11)Dyeing, Retanning, and Fatliquoring

Then dyeing, retanning and fatliquoring follow to add color and texture to the leather using optimum dyestuff and chemical agents according to each end product.
(Required time: 1 day)

12)Setting Out and Drying

The leather is set out and dried once again to smooth its grain. This process also requires the sensitive selection of method with respect to the end products.
(Required time: 5 to 10 days)

13)Finishing

Finally the leather surface is treated with pigments and top coats to condition its softness, color, gloss, and touch; a process which calls for personal sensitivity and good taste with creative capabilities. This process may also include ironing to further adjust its softness and gloss, or embossing to impress a design to give character to the end products.
(Required time: 10 to 15 days)
From this Leather, the Belts r made and sold in Markets….

Jere answers:

It stinks higher than month old fish market rejects.

The only reason HBoS was available at that price was because of the glut of shares dumped on the stockmarket by twitchy brokers who then proceeded to sell them for less than they were worth resulting in the share price (which was on a steady downward trend and had been for a year) dropping like a stone over less than two days. This effectively devalued the company and made it unstable. LloydsTSB have just picked up what will in the future be considered an utter bargain.

As I pointed out in a question a couple of days ago, HBoS is a behemoth compared to LloydsTSB. Under normal circumstances, Llyods would have been more likely to be an aquisition of HBoS, not the other way around. Although a takeover of that scale in normal conditions would have been blocked under monopolies rules which have been suspended under national security rules, mainly because the collapse of HBoS would have wrecked the country’s economy.

I find the whole thing dubious in the extreme. The only reason it was not a direct government bail out was because they had thrown billions at Northern Rock and didn’t have the money available to do it again when a real banking giant needed help.
Given that they were in that position, the government has done what was probably the only thing available to do and that was to broker a deal with another bank.

I can only hope our other national bank has not similarly compromised it’s own position.

Just a though. Now that Bank of Scotland is no longer exactly a Scottish bank, what happens to their right to print banknotes? Although it should be said that, as LlyodsTSB were formed when TSB took over as senior partner with Llyods, their registered office is actually in Edinburgh and not London, as everyone seems to assume.

Jere answers:

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Jere answers:

Actually, this particular bail out means nothing to the educational loan niche of the lending market – there will be pressure now, from some quarters, for the fed to take more aggressive action in the student lending domain.

What’s more important is the legislation that Congress rushed into law in May of this year – now that was an educational lending bail out, that mostly went unnoticed at the time.

Under the May legislation, which has already taken effect, the Education Department is now eligible to buy a large percentage of student loans from the lenders. As the system has traditionally worked, the lenders make the loans, but then turn them around, package them up into securities, and sell them to investors – which, in turn, generates new money for the banks to make more students loans with.

As you probably know if you’ve been keeping track of the news, those kinds of asset based securities have fallen out of favor with investors, who have seen way too many packages of similar mortgage-based loans go bad, so the educational lenders were getting stuck with loans they never had any intention of carrying on their books. That’s why so many lenders abandoned the student loan market – there was no one to sell their loans to.

With the Department of Education now able to buy large quantities of these loans, the mass exodus from the educational lending market has slowed. Of course, CampusDoor was a Lehman Brothers company, so there goes another lender…

By the way, the same May law also authorizes the Department of Education to make more direct loans – but they remain a lender of “last resort”.

Either way – the May legislation was a necessary move to resuscitate the student loan business, and so far, at least, things seem to be holding together. Today’s news should not have much of a direct effect on the educational lending market.

Trust me on this – the government needs to find a way to keep the money flowing so that our young people can afford to obtain an education – whatever the eventual terms of the solution, there will be money available for you when it’s time to attend college.

I hope that helped – good luck to you!